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So what exactly are the advantages for newcomers who are already certified?

Good question and we discussed this before launching the updated initiative.

The original idea of the Achievements Programme was to help people learn about Steemit through the various achievements. It was supported by a curation account. Over time, it became less about education, and more about identity checks (Achievement 1). Which was impossible for Greeters to do from a single post.

So, over the years, the achievement programme was constantly a source of abuse and subsequently, curation was removed.

Assuming that the curation doesn't return, then a user that's been through certification will have proven themselves as an honest user, over a decent period of time. This should give moderators within communities more confidence that a user is who they say they are (and a barrier to support being removed). This doesn't mean that they won't "change their spots" but at least there's some confidence there.

We'd also like it to become something that users can be proud of and we've even discussed creating a "certificate" that can be used in the footer of their posts. We've not reached this point yet.

If these steps are successful, then perhaps in the future, curation will return for the 1st and 2nd period reports.


We'll see how this list develops over time. I expect some movement within the groups of communities which could show the benefits of "unlocking" each level. Time will tell.


To throw your question back at you - what advantages would you like to see for progressing through the certification?

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what advantages would you like to see for progressing through the certification?

I don't mean to think about profit, but I am more focused on what the function or use of the certification is.

If you reflect on the previous rules, after making an achievement-1 post and being verified by the greeter, then the user can be said to be a free user adventuring on the platform. So what are achievements-2, 3 and so on for?

Now with the new rules, I hope that certification is not just a description, there must be other considerations, I will wait for that.

maybe it will be clearer if I change the question.
What are the disadvantages of users who do not follow the certification?

If you reflect on the previous rules, after making an achievement-1 post and being verified by the greeter, then the user can be said to be a free user adventuring on the platform. So what are achievements-2, 3 and so on for?

This is what I saw the problem to be with the previous approach. When it was first launched, the Achievements represented learning and users were rewarded for their learning. Once users stopped being rewarded, they stopped learning and as you say, they became free. This put a lot of responsibility on the Greeters to assess somebody from a single post. I'm certainly repeating myself here but it's one of the main reasons for the change.

What are the disadvantages of users who do not follow the certification?

Different communities will have different requirements. So from a community point of view, most are still open to the "greeted" status although some want a little more confidence in who enters their community. So I would say that the disadvantage is that users without it will find these communities more difficult to join and will encounter additional "suspicion" when trying to do so.

The certification is aimed to give moderators additional confidence in the users that hold it.


It'll be interesting to see what happens with the accounts that previously used Achievement 1 as their "free ride" and how communities will respond. Will more communities perform their own additional "background checks"? Will more communities decide that there are too many suspicious users and move to a different Group?


I know that I'm explaining myself very badly. So perhaps an old comment of mine will explain better..

https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@the-gorilla/seicmi

Thank you for your explanation sir, I'm sure there will be better developments on Steemit.

My understanding is still very limited about the platform and community policies, you have successfully helped me to expand it.

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