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RE: ⏸️ #proposal-89: [Paused] Steemit - The Social Media Blockchain for Photographers
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say, "I told you so 😉".
Once a proposal goes above the return proposal, something to be prepared for is that it might float above and below it a few times at during the lifetime of the project.
Yes, this was always a possibility. This was vindictive by one person so is difficult to accept. By removing his vote from mine and moving it to the Return Proposal (that all witnesses had agreed to stop supporting), it was a malicious attempt to stop my proposal. If he’d just removed his vote from mine, fair enough. But that wasn’t enough for him - he did his best to remove the funding altogether, which he continues his efforts to achieve.
You’ve presumably seen the other comments to this post and you’ll also be able to see his latest posts continuing to undermine my work. It’s unnecessary and in my opinion, vindictive. Doubly so if you compare my proposal and what I do with my STEEM in comparison to the others. Some of which sell 100%, none of which have powered up even a single STEEM. And he complains about selling pressure, yet develops tools to SELL STEEM but not to BUY it. Hypocrite.
I’ve since removed my support for him as a witness for obvious reasons.
There aren't many sincere developers on steem, unfortunately and it is sad to see that the few good left consider themselves as competitors. Probably and hopefully just some unhealthy competitions here, I'd like to believe that and not dark motives and agenda.
If I have to summarize - there are two types of developers here - those who do it to attract more votes and them milk and sell everything (some of them post several times a day and they don't pay attention to bugs reported long ago)
For instance, I reported in their discord server a bug on botto where several votes are caster per day on the same account while the setting is "1". Guess... not fixed yet. Another example - I saw someone report an issue with SteemKeychain at least a month ago, it's when trading SBD/STEEM. Not fixed either.
Then there are those developers who really care and hold STEEM and support other people, not just there own projects and account. I can name you and other 5-6 developers and if you leave steem, I'd instantly power down all as the others aren't "sincere" developers , lol, not sure that's the right word though.
So long story short, keep up the great work and I'm here if you need a helping hand!
Thank you - I appreciate the support and whilst "sincere" probably isn't the right word, I don't know what word is and it fits well so let's go with it 🙂
I couldn't agree more. If anything, it should be the opposite.
I've fixed countless bugs that this user has raised in GitHub - even ridiculously simple ones that with 5 minutes of effort, he could have fixed himself. So why didn't he? He spent longer writing the bug than it would've taken to fix it. Presumably, because he wouldn't benefit. He wouldn't get paid. I'm so bitter and angry... can you tell? I doubt that I'll ever forget this and his efforts to prevent my proposal from happening. I don't even know how this would benefit him or anybody else... I can only see how it harms everybody else.
I have no doubt that his efforts aren't over - I see from his post yesterday that he's still trying. So I haven't quit either. Not yet. Because as you say:
And I can confidently say, that you're not alone. (That sounds arrogant. Should I delete it? I don't want it to sound arrogant.)
I can feel your frustration.
What people do here on the chain is just mirroring the behaviour from RL. The humanity could've been much more developed if not all those wars that put us centuries back. Healthy competition is ok but this all doesn't sound healthy, as I see it from my point of view. Of course, I don't know all the history and details ;)
Yes - Real Life has a lot to answer for!
No... and I think that I missed something somewhere along the line too!
The pause was short lived though I won't get complacent about securing even more votes!
I’ve thought of a new approach for proposal votes so that I don’t have to keep contacting people - would you consider setting me as your witness proxy? Good plan? Not good plan?
I'd say, I'd pass witness proxy if I go inactive or very low active for a longer period of time. I'd like to have (the feeling that I have) some control over which witness I support :)
Not that my SP is that big to affect any major decision but I'd like to think my votes matter :)))
I am quite sure which one you won't support but if there is any you'd like me to give a vote, I think I have a few votes left ;)
Thank you, I hope you see my point!
That's good. A lot of people have little interest in this part of the platform so it's nice to hear that you do.
They do. They matter much more than a lot of people appreciate.
I essentially lost 4m votes last week - 2m removed from mine and 2m added to the one below. My proposal's not only managed to get these back, but more - moving above another proposal that it was previously behind. It's remarkable how quickly the 5k - 10k votes stack up.
If you haven't voted for moecki, he definitely deserves a vote. You probably know all of the other main players already. xpilar is always very helpful and since he's ranked #20, he's most at risk of dropping out (there's a big difference in rewards between #20 and #21!)
I definitely see your point, understand it and entirely agree with it 🙂
Thank you for the support and those suggestions, I had those two already approved.
moecki is a wonderful guy, he helps me with dev stuff (not my main goal and vision for the life but I like to experiment occasionally :)))
No plans to become a witness yourself?
Ah, of course you’ll know moecki, I really want to see him higher!
I might set up a node if server prices fall dramatically but it’s too expensive at the moment. I don’t think Steem’s desperate for witnesses at the moment given who’s not in the Top 20. Maybe one day but not today 😊
Yep. I saw the back story, and I removed my SPS vote from the "Return proposal" after this post. (I already wasn't voting for that witness account.) I'm glad to see that your proposal got reactivated, and I hope it stays that way.
This sort of concentration of power is the reason why I decided to keep #ddd going this month, even after the SPS rolled out some new project funding. If #ddd ever gets widespread adoption, no single voter (or small cabal) will be able to decide where that backing goes.
Whilst what happened was incredibly annoying and angered me, some good has come from it.
Whilst speaking to somebody else about it, there’s a realisation that I need some input from a UI designer so I’ve reached out to somebody I’ve worked with who I believe is one of the best available. The downside of course is that my “payment” will go straight to him (which would be considered an absolute bargain at “mates rates”). Another downside is that I’m still upset and whilst somebody like him is considered a top witness and acting selfishly, he will continue to hold STEEM back unless he personally profits.
I suppose that there’s an inevitability that a predominantly selfish platform has these characters.
Enough though. I’ve got some great improvements planned which with the design input, will be even better. And I will continue to gather support until my proposal overtakes the one above it. Then it won’t be just me that he’s attacking!
And thanks for removing your vote from that proposal. You must have done it before I started contacting everybody 😊
#ddd is growing nicely. I look at the delegations to me and whilst we’re not talking huge numbers individually, the symbolism is very meaningful to me. As is the fact that despite the lower “power” votes, my proposal has the highest actual votes.
Unfortunately, politics takes time and energy that would be better spent elsewhere.
I don't have a problem with people pursuing their own self-interest, but it really puzzles and frustrates me when they prioritize their short-term self-interest ahead of their own long-term self-interest - and that harms my long-term self-interest, too.
Looking forward to see it, especially with input from the person you describe with UI design skills. Back when Dan Larimer left, he made the point that Steemit's future success depended on web development skills, but we've seen very little of that in the subsequent years.
Yeah, this is one of the top-3 reasons why I've never submitted a proposal. Politics is not my skill set, and also not my area of interest.
I'm glad to read that. I almost skipped my blog post this month because it feels like pushing on a string. Being a cheerleader just isn't my personality, but I keep hoping it'll start getting some traction. I could just do my own personal delegations each month, and leave it at that, but that's not gonna spur participation, so I'm happy to read that it's having some impact, anyway.
Agreed. No society has ever flourished when every individual has acted alone.
I'd say very little is an understatement. I think it's been quickly forgotten that 14 months ago, Steemit had seen zero noticeable change. I accept the argument that the current rate of change is slow. And perhaps I've been too subtle with the changes I've made. Too incremental to the extent that those casual users who now oppose my work haven't noticed. But having zero Issue on GitHub raised within the last 5 years is a pretty good demonstration of progress.
Me neither. Which is probably why some people don't like me. I'm no diplomat. Never have been. Never will be.
Have you seen how many delegations I've received? These aren't people delegating in the hope of getting votes. Or people wanting anything from me in return.
You inspired these people. That inspires me.