Gluttony's infinite Pride puzzlesteemCreated with Sketch.

in CEO Champion's Gate4 years ago (edited)

Prize: 10 Crowns and 20 Contribution
Goal: Pride has a value of 200+ from attacking a single Gluttony

Rules: Your answer should be in the form of a replay code. The army test area and scenario tools are allowed, but the only game rule you may break in this process is turn order, and only as convenience.

The 1st person to demonstrate this goal in a replay wins the prize.
If the second is posted within very short timeframe, they also win.
If another is extremely different from the 1st, they also win.
Duplicating someone elses solution does not win.

Bonus:


Demonstrate how Gluttony can be used to exceed morale decay.
Optimize the rate at which morale is gained using the rest of your army. The person with most efficient system wins 20 additional crowns and contribution, with efficiency determined by the sum of morale for both teams at turn 100, ignoring minion promotions. The two armies and their starting positions are expected to be valid for the purpose of this bonus. The bonus prize will be given when this post reaches 7 days post age. After that point, exceeding the 'current best' may give you something else.

Consider all comments/discussion to be spoilers.
This is a buffer to save you from that:
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 4 years ago (edited)

I'm sponsoring the bonus with this reward system:

If you show me a replay (send privately or not) of you getting a morale total higher than one of these milestones, you can claim this much RP:

(RP claiming list has been moved to another comment due to repeated edits and steem RC reasons, check the replies to this comment)

So if you have a solution that gives 1345 morale, you'll be able to claim 20+21+22+23 RP. But it's first to submit a solution to me. If someone comes after that with a 1696 morale solution, they will only claim 24+25+26 because the first 4 were already claimed.

The point of this is a better reward structure that doesn't completely involve hiding your replay until the very end, and so people know roughly how high the current top score is. Of course, someone could choose to hide their solution still, but then they wouldn't be claiming the reward.

Also I won't give rewards after the bonus contest ends because many people would tie at that point. EDIT: Actually, I am keeping the reward structure because what I expected would happen did not (if people sent privately, and at the last moment posted them publicly, I would not have given rewards since this doesn't accomplish the incentive of publicizing scores). However, 1500 was publicized about a day before the contest end. TL;DR: 1600+ rewards are still active. (unless I get 1600+ myself lol)

Note that I am definitely going to steal your replay if I want to optimize it and take the final prize. You can certainly choose to submit a replay to me that's lower than you actually have. Since I have to look at it to confirm it, it's better to say this than to pretend I don't get an advantage from it.

 4 years ago (edited)

Rewards:

  • 1000: 20 RP (claimed by adamzero)
  • 1100: 21 RP (claimed by adamzero)
  • 1200: 22 RP (claimed by ryan487)
  • 1300: 23 RP (claimed by ryan487)
  • 1400: 24 RP (claimed by adamzero)
  • 1500: 25 RP (claimed by ryan487)
  • 1600: 26 RP
  • 1700: 27 RP
  • 1800: 28 RP
  • 1900: 29 RP
  • 2000: 30 RP

140 RP is 'remaining'. The current publicized top is 1518.

 4 years ago 

This post has received a 31.59 % upvote from @boomerang.

193+1329 =

1522

By the way, this solution has even more problems with morale count than Ryan's, because now black is missing 1 morale as well as white missing 2 morale.

Also if you do a game patch where lifestone envy works you better not do it 12 hours before ending, this timeframe is extremely inconvenient for me plz.

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 4 years ago Reveal Comment

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time is almost up... here is my new solution.
anyone who uses king after now is hereby stealing and their solution is void.

243+1303=

1546

 4 years ago Reveal Comment

Here is THE ONE TRUE SOLUTION TO COMPLETELY ENTIRELY OPTIMIZE
Truly a masterpiece.

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175+1360=

1535

 4 years ago Reveal Comment

@thegrandestine

246+1303 =

1549

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This is a very small iterative improvement (and sadly is a one-off improvement), but I am taking that 'something else' thx.

Fun fact: Gnome+++ nerf this update means this doesn't hit 1550

for a minute I thought the alternate prize here could be a Gnome+++
but maybe this is a silly precedent to set and subjectively overshadows other prizes,
so instead I will give you a few crowns, refresh your blitz token, and tiershift gnome.

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@thegrandestine
in discord you hinted you would fix dove envy if the top score did not utilize it.
BEHOLD!!!

Disclaimer: This solution does in fact have both a dove and envies, however the dove will reach its destination from the gluttony deaths, and the result is not swayed in any way by the fact the dove moves due to envy.

This is also a very different solution, the armies are in completely different both army orders, and the pre-stonemage phase is very different (Also no dove envy which is hard to do)... for my achievement i must request uh idk, all i know is ive gotten rather attached to this gluttony and I kinda want him :3.

1551

Since I have just given main a gluttony for 1550, there is a new precedent and I have also given you one. Depending on perspective this could be seen as greater or lesser reward than crowns, but it seems fitting. Also worth noting is that giving rewards for +1 over previous best is a terribly abusable notion, but feel free to go higher anyway for more pseudo random prizes. (this goes for anyone reading also)

are you giving +1 gluttony for each point gained

it seems like a reasonable prize considering the challenge becomes progressively more difficult and initial contest set the bar pretty high to begin with, but some obvious flaws are possibly overshadowing initial prize or someone with 1600 solution trying to farm 50 copies of gluttony, lol

maybe something like +3 points = 1 gluttony is more reasonable, since I am definitely going to try farming gluttony copies with +1 improvements. But pretend I never said that

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Here is what i hope to be my final submission.

final score for the bonus here is
281+1164 =

1445

very impressive

I think I broke some of your rules but I'm not wasting any more time on this so here ya go.

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In terms of the bonus there is some rule breaking here,
but I have decided it qualifies for the primary goal, and sent you prizes.

Here is my final solution, please appreciate the true perfection and harmoniaity this replay has achieved, every move serves its maximum possible purpose, my only regret is that I could not capture gluttony one last time with pride due to a complex set of reasons, and instead I had to summon a random skeleton. This is the only flaw, and it will haunt me until my death, or until I figure out how to fix it. Also one army only uses 98 morale so can I get a +2 morale bonus for free thanks.

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final score for the bonus here is
186+1332 =

1518

+2 granted then ungranted then regranted then ungranted again.

My conclusion is the +2 creates a scenario where you gain extra points for something outside the scope of the challenge. There is possibly some merit to either side, but this specific 98pt army manages to highlight the issue with equalizing morale to 100, so I have decided not to give a bonus for starting below max morale.

However, for exposing such a problem I have decided to grant you +2 arbitrary superposition points. These points exist in a quantum101 tutorial state that oscillates between +0/+2 infinitely fast such that neither is distinct from the other. If scoring were to be close enough that such a thing needed to be more accurately measured, it may even seem as if it were a coin toss.

hahahahaha those edits, I was going to post a solution involving me begging to gain 2 bonus morale for free

 4 years ago (edited)

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also adamzero posted a 1400 first

247+1303 =

1550

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Realized my previous solution had something obviously dumb lul, I demand another blitz token refresh and another gnome tiershift or I will not give useless improvement anymore

after a week of thinking about this and nothing else,
I have decided to give you a single base tier gluttony
which brings your total to: a single base tier gluttony
(and 2 gluttony+++)

 4 years ago (edited)

how much contribution is "make developer delay the next update by a week" worth