RE: 👍 Weekly Downvote Compensation Post - Target: $33.99
I'm truly sorry that good, hard-working people like you have to deal with these issues.
As you know, I've had to deal with this type of harassment myself, and it's truly disheartening when you open Steemworld and find this... You're right, sometimes you can deal with it, but other times it's demoralizing, especially feeling like no one else cares about what happens to us. You were the only one who stepped up to the plate to support me when I received these downvotes; no one else came forward to say or do anything. I know that when we receive support, the downvotes are diluted, but the harassment is still bothersome.
I don't want you to leave, or give up, so I think we can find a way to continue...
Alone we can go faster, but together we can go further. I'm here to support you, and I hope others will join us in this as well.
Exactly - I know that people care. I know that there will be somebody else. In the case of bullionstackers, I have a list of people that he's targeted - which the Bangla community is compensating on a regular basis.
I know that we both have strong connections on this platform - the kind of connections that will make this idea a long-term success.
I have many thoughts on this. But I'll save them for another time.
I've reflected a lot over the past 48 hours and there's a reason that Hive is so full of downvotes and hatred.... good people walk away. Nice people walk away. I've come incredibly close to powering down and leaving and if it weren't for a few people, I would have done.
Then they'll move their hatred to the next good person. Continue until they're gone. And again. And again. Until all that's left is selfish hatred and a desire to destroy.
Knowing what the correct path is is difficult. The sadness and anger that they evoke fuels them to do more - attack more - be bigger dick heads. All they'll get to attack now, is a post to compensate for their entire hate-fuelled week. And some comments which I write in the expectation that they'll be zeroed out. Hence the use of this account. My "meh, downvote me" account.
ABB users are regular victims of him. But the community always recovered from that. But not everyone gets that support. He downvotes me many times. I never got the recovery. Once I stopped posting anything in ABB. If I had enough power, I would like to join you. Keep Going.
Thank you. With this approach, nothing is required from anybody, other than to upvote the weekly post and ask everybody that you know to do the same.
If the post exceeds the target payout, the victims of their abuse benefit, rather than get penalised. And eventually, his puny brain will realise that he's benefiting those that he's attacking instead of hurting them.
Perhaps he'll decide that these posts are such good posts to earn curation rewards from, that he'll start upvoting them himself 🤣 Although that will depend upon what he's been smoking on that particular day.
In the communtity Italy weekly around 5 entries are downvoted. i once asked who did that (no answer or not able to figure it out?) they say they started @shield-it for that reason. is it an option to do start something like that or join hands with them?
I was going to mention shield-it account here. But, then I saw your comment.
I am not familiar with such attacks. I knew them when I came across @ shield-it post.
By the way, the "premier league fantasy" contest that @sporting-gorilla was hosting was cool. It would be nice if this can get sorted out and we get it back. If we did, feel free to join in. ;)
It sounds to me that shield-it is possible since this is by far not the only account. I've been downvoted more than once and still around what helps is not to read the notifications and post and do what you like most
I would say strange but it's more interesting how frequently power is given to the wrong people. I assume they will solve this since it's their responsibility.
Let me know if the fun contests continues.
BTW instead of an upvote we can transfer SP/Steem and in the early days we had tipu which seems not be accesable to everyone (I informed more thatn once since I still see those upvotes).
Yeah, there are things which cannot be avoided at sometimes. But, it is good having those sort of accounts around to make it fair.
I will surely invite you on the next one. I just hope that I don't miss it too. LOL
I came across tipu before. But, I don't know much about it too.
Have a nice week...
I guess we should check once or twice per week to see what's going on.
It will return once this international / FA Cup break is over so there's a natural break anyway. I probably didn't need to cancel this weekend's but emotion got the better of me. That won't happen again.
Don't say that emotions don't count. It's fine this way.
I've spoken to the Italy team after I created something similar - @bullionsavers. But... it was too consuming, both with time, energy and emotion. I was thinking about it constantly, fighting constantly and I didn't join this site to fight with dimwits.
So with this approach, it's once per week. The code's written. The data's accumulating and if this post is anything to go by, the community will continue to come together and we'll win.
After this post, there are already different targets. (not from steemcleaners and spaminator - they're literally a one-trick pony). Now that I've raised above bullionstackers' games, he's attacking my friends, hoping that he'll get a reaction. Which he won't. He's trying to be clever but obviously isn't very good at it.
Just a thought - instead of me replying in 10 places, let's try to consolidate the next comment into 1 🙂
If you need extra SP let me know.
No person with common sense joins to fight if he want to blog or likes to have fun, it should be a hobby and bring energy not eat it. It's fine with me if you write one answer or none at all. Will Italy shield if we all post with them?
Thought about muting to have peace of mind or no longer reading? I hit the mute since two days.
Don't forget to knock you have my support and enjoy the weekend!
It sounds like the one world order.. reign over an empty world...
If it comes to Hive and Steemit I can't help thinking that the the same reign, since the same happens
Hive is so much worse. The reason that Hive exists is because of their hatred doctrine. Their entire platform's foundation and reason it exists in the first place is through hatred (and stupidity). They were unreasonable and went to war. A war that they ultimately lost and still haven't stopped fighting!
I was there when the complaints started and said, "If it's not good enough, start for yourself," and the response was, "That's exactly what we're going to do." Fine, but what I never understood was why there was immense energy invested in downvoting and threatening. If I were them, I would be happy to leave and have my peace.
They took everything: all the apps, the poll (indeed, it was outside of steemit but if you used it, the poll was posted in the personal account), palnet, leo, the health apps, peakd, sbi, ecency, dllike, you name it. I ended up on a blacklist on Hive being published among others and many freewriters who wanted to be on both platforms (since we had a copied account with SP and posts). The respond of the one who posted the blacklist after being attacked by many was: I never thought I had that much power. I must say a lot of tensions was gone after the hardfork but the platform did change during the past years again it's not easy if you know no one and have no support if you are under attack. A strong will and a boxing ball are a big help.
No one fights forever. The last throes of a doomed man.
And that's probably what makes these people different - and why the anger is ultimately all that's left. That's all they have. They don't see it as anger or hatred, they see it as a purpose. Their purpose in life is to feel almighty. Powerful. And they try to accomplish this with hatred and destruction.
They'll probably die young.
And this is normal. It's expected. It's what they rely on. It's why good people leave, and the hate stays. It's why Hive will ultimately die. People will see it for what it is. A platform whose entire foundation is grounded in hatred and intolerance.
Thank you. I appreciate the support. I think that the best support that anybody can give is to look at this list each week, see the names and be there for them. Whether that's votes or simply kind words - that's what will make Steemit's community stronger - and fighting against hate is a great way of bringing people closer.
trust me bullies can get extremely old since they have a lesson to learn which won't happen if everyone backs off.
when will the list be published, I will set a reminder
I'm planning to do it weekly and having started it on a Friday, my intention is that it will be every Friday. If one post doesn't reach the required level to compensate everybody through the beneficiaries, then I'll write as many posts as required to reach the target.
will it help if steem is transferred or is that negative?
Why did it happen to you but moreover what made you stay?
That happened right after I finished the season with wewrite. What happened was that I basically told one of them to stop spamming with the @claudia account, which was her self-vote, and I also told her to stop accusing people and downvoting them without reason. That's a summary. Suddenly, one day, people (A couple of the ones the gorilla mentions here in his post) started downvoting me. When I tried to report the situation and leave a comment, tagging several community leaders, only one person responded at that time, to that comment.... I think they're afraid of receiving downvotes themselves, you know what I mean? That's why they don't say anything...
The thing is, even though I was mentioned in a Discord group, asking what was going on, I explained things, and received some support, but then they forgot about it, and I continued receiving those downvotes for over three months on all my posts and comments.
the-gorilla took it upon themselves to upvote to make up for this.
Why did I stay? Because I didn't think it was enough reason to leave.
I know those votes can be very damaging to smaller accounts, and can even destroy their reputations. I reported them, as I've told you before. Because I know the damage they can do. It's annoying, but after a while, I stopped paying attention. And I think it's the best thing we can do when this happens.
As for the community, they shouldn't look the other way, but rather support us in any way they can, that's my opinion.
Right now, I know that many aren't commenting on this post from our friend for fear of being attacked. And well, although I respect the positions of others, I don't agree with this, since what happens to a colleague today could happen to us tomorrow. So it's better to look at what's happening and see if something can be done.
I said the same but I admit that I rarely check if I receive an upvote let alone I will easily notice if I am downvoted. If this is the case I hear it from the community Italy, who keeps an eye on the those being downvoted and they use shield-it. What I find strange is that they told me they don't know who does it.
btw the accounts are active in Italy, received votes and I did tell them in September 2024 how or what but as far as I know they didn't see a reason to act.
If it comes to downvotes it never feels great because one easily believes he/she did do something wrong but it helps if we know that whatever we post is always on our account and our responsibility and no one else's. Therefore the question is: does it matter what other think, how they rate you? A down vote of .50 is huge if you in acreage not even make those 0.50.
With you I agree that this should be discusses and not ignored. If this is the case by "friends" followers or... I can only conclude that they show their true colours. It's sad but at least this is know and there's no need to keep investing in friendships or give upvotes. That may sound harse but I rather vote for the same 10 7 times per day and have a low CSI than voting for hypocrites who only care about their own wallet.
Will this happen to them? 100% and 200% sure they will be the first complaining and asking for help (unfortunately I have a very good memory and no problem with denying help).
I am sorry to hear this happened to you and the worst is that after all the work everyone let you down except for the gorilla.
Ignoring helped in your case, but I doubt if that many hatred is ventilated (I read the comments) this will always pass if you ignore since it goes way further over there, including threatening entire families.
Hate and envy is a nasty thing and privacy is precious since the steemit meeting aren't safe to be for everyone
Any suggestions what can be done? It sounds good to me to block the option of upvoting/downvoting and so on. Can SP be blocked after 3 auto warnings of abusive behaviour?
Well, when I want to see my story's activity, I don't go to the Steemit blog, but rather check Steemworld; you can see everything there.
The same thing happens if you check other accounts. Claudia's account is linked to those accounts that hate Steemit, and you can see all the links there.
You can also see if you've received negative votes in the green dots next to your posts. The green dots are positive votes, and the red ones are downvotes:
I was reviewing my blog, and it didn't happen when it ended, but during the time I was with you in wewrite... from September to January, and then in February they came back again, and then they left....
I didn't say anything or want to do anything else. Nowadays, I don't hold any resentment; I understand that people are afraid to act. But when I look back at how I felt at the time, it's a feeling of "no one cares anymore," and it can feel really bad... It's a type of psychological abuse, and I understand very well how it feels.
Nothing can be done about the accounts. I think they can be blocked, but not their use of the SP. That's what I've been able to find out. I don't know if anything can be done about it. I think a HF would be necessary, and that would require a greater effort to resolve the problem, as far as I understand...
I never want to know how my account is doing. If I have to check everything, it won't be good for me because I easily start digging or searching for answers, which in most cases only confirms what I already knew. It feels like a waste of time. I prefer to do what I like most and if people join me that's fine if not it's fine too.
I never looked at the dots... I know I once checked as Italy said I was downvoted. I couldn't find that back, which I know I did find strange. Can be I had a look at steemworld.org, but for sure, underneath where you can see who upvoted and I didn't see the minus + name which I found weird. Shouldn't it show with a downvote?
I had a chat with claudia as she said someone was spamming or something, but if I remember well, it is made undone. The thing about self-voting I find hard. If one works with more than 1 account, a self vote is never in it, which at times sounds odd to me since it is acceptable to upvote others with all my accounts. No one complains about that.
I hope a solution will be found. A community where the attacked can post to at least be rewarded (compensated) might be a help, especially if the downvoting stops after a certain time like also happened after the hardfork (everyone was downvoted who wanted to have a look at Hive and also the ones with SBI).
A community like this might be a way to make visible what happens.
It's just a thought, but is there a way that if an account is muted also the option of giving an upvote/downvote is impossible just like commenting? Blocking someone should mean something (not that I am not happy with not being able to see certain steemians even if others still see the messages).
There's a mute option, but not a block option.
Anyway, the mute option doesn't work like it does on other networks. If I mute someone, for example, it prevents me from seeing them, but it doesn't prevent that user from seeing me. It's supposed to work so they can't see me either, but it doesn't.
Muting works best in communities. If I mute someone in a community, that user can't post or comment, but they can see the posts and can also vote or downvote.
In any case, it would be a good idea to be able to block users who are harmful to us, and for the blocking to be bidirectional.
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I hope this can be realized since this way it's pointless although it helps to remain peace of mind and avoids to be spammed with negative energy.
A happy Friday!
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Thank you friend, happy day too🤗💗
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I have no experience in this. But, what you are saying right now is making sense I guess. By the way, are there anyone to reach out to when something like this happens.
I just came across @sporting-gorilla by accident and saw the fantasy contest. It was fun. All of a sudden this happens.
I hope this gets sorted out.
Have a nice day =D