RE: Beethoven and Ligeti- On the subjects of communication and perception (1.0)
@ty-ty and @weisser-rabe, after having a cup of coffee and smoking my first two cigarrettes of the day, I finally woke up and I have summed up the following:
1 - The two persons in debate here do not know eachother, which may or not be a good thing, however, it appears that we both manage to be able to debate whatever subject without taking personal offense, which will allow for a long exploration of a wide field of ideas.
2 - @ty-ty enjoys playing the agent provocateur, by intentionally misreading what I write and throwing a totally different bundle of wood into the fire, which will bring the debate into unforeseen directions, so, I will play into the chaos and try to rise up to the challenge;
3 - Even though I haven't spent hundreds of hours studying Kant, I did spend quite a few, however, I am starting to get the increased feeling that my friend ty-ty, of which I know nothing about except that he appears to be a male born at least in the 1970's, of German origin who possibly trades in teaching languages or philosophy (please tell me if I am wrong), may be at an advantage in certain subjects. Myself, have been, throughout my life, mostly an artist, as I consider the trade of Dental Prosthetics to be an Art, but, I have also been some other things, so, I may get to be at an advantage in other fields, also, I am Mediterranean, which gives me a very different cultural backdrop from my interlocutor in this conversations. Our opinions may end up completeing each other's instead of going into full on confrontation;
4 - I will tag my 1,0 article as #ty-tyxhefestus, publish ty-ty's comment as a full article (1.1), and tag it just the same and will write an additional article (2.0), not answering the initial comment, but widening the debate;
5- I will only demand three rules for the continuation of this conversation: -that all publications on this are numbered (before the decimal point, articles, after the point, full comments); that intervention be made as posts, whenever the comment exceeds 3 paragraphs; and that all posts are tagged #ty-tyxhefestus. This is a matter of simple organization, so we can go back and follow the ideas exposed and allow others, that are probably still unborn to know the precise order of the debate). I expect you to be ok with this;
5- Also, I rather you take your time considering your answer and expand upon it further than to make a rushed comment, as this intends to be a dialogue and not a critique of what I post.
Having said this, the challenge is on for "The ty-ty x hefestus debate on everything". As I said, I will repost your comments as a post and proceed to fire the next round. I have business to attend to the rest of the morning, so, expect my answer later this evening.
Thanks for all the time you put into reading and answering me. Believe me when I say it is truly a pleasure to have this friendly discussion.
Cheers,
Pedro
Hi Pedro, I really like structure. However, very few attempts to establish something like this here have been successful in my opinion: I wish you both a continued and fruitful debate!
1- Don't you want to stop smoking? ;-)))
2- On your 3rd point - you are marvellously wrong about age and profession ;-)))
3- Don't you want to stop smoking? ;-))))
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Hi Rabe. I'm obviously not Sherlock and no, I don't want to stop smoking. Not yet.
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At least Dr Watson.
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Lmfao... Yes. Sherlock was a dummy, wasn't he?
I am working with IT-stuff. My job is to support users and to help administrating networks.
This is not my originally teached thing.
At university I stepped into communicational disciplines as history of music / music analysis, German linguistics / language philosophy and public media / communicational sociology.
Besides that I was interested in physics, especially in the consequences of quantum theory (namely: non-locational reality as it shows in Quantum pairing), but on a very dilettantic level. (I can't follow the mathematical models.)
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Well... I figured you were in phillology. :) You end up your carreer were I started, lol. Once I got out of the Navy, I was a program and network analist and programmer for a short while. I Studied Mechanical Engineering at the University, which is to say Lots of Physics and then, I took a leap into Dental Prosthetics, did that and now I am a PhD in it. I stopped following mathematical models a long time ago. From my days in Naval Officer's School, I retain a lot of my communication models, leadership and situational analisys learnings. Psychology was also a thing in Medical School, but most of all, I am self taught in a lot of issues. I guess I now know were your filter definition comes from... We were talking of different things. Thanks for letting me know this. Although I already suspected it, it actually turns out to be good to have a minimum information about the other. It will help in a better selection of the words to use.
Have a great day.
Cheers.
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This is working on part (ii) of my pre-interpretational steps since the text catched my interest in part (i).
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