Great information @stellabelle as I am reading this with the sun glaring on the screen I cant help but mention that I need to toughing up on these matters. Meaning I said something similar a week back and I started to get even more people spamming their links on my posts, some I asked nicely to remove and some did while others didn't even pay attention. The one that gets me the most is the " Hi great post check this out" Grrrr
I mean are they kidding us or themselves! #crackingthewhip
I did a post about spamming posts and spamming me in the Steem Chat. Where I had to remain invisible because every time I would show up I would either get links to peoples posts, a follow for follow or some weird ad to join what seemed to be a pump and dump scam. For 2 days following what I wrote I had around 7 people spam their links and some of them think they can do it in a slick way, while others just posted with out any regards to reading the post. lol It's almost comical in a sense! One person even made the link size 20 font. I was nice about it If I saw they were new, I said listen please remove the link because its frowned upon here while the ones with higher rep scores and who have been here longer, I just said "is this a joke are you really spamming my post after what I just typed" Your post put things into perspective for me though because I have been wrestling with what to do with these members. #crackthewhip Any addition advice for me?
(I apologize if my reply seems messy I am on the boardwalk handing out flyers and the sun is really hot today) Trying to get some new members signed up.
Thank you, That is what I have been doing because I don't like hurting people with down votes unless they plagiarize my work then its own! Off topic, its really tough getting people to sign up even with free pizza! I signed up 2 people so far. Maybe, if they take the flyer home and not throw it out- it will creep into their mind later on. If you need any flyers, pens, calendars, etc for free let me know my family owns a printing press and I get all of it for free. So don't hesitate to ask me for anything that can help out. :0) Have a great afternoon. I will stick it out another hour and update later on today.
Yes, can you chat at 6pm Est? or maybe before I can msg you here if I get back earlier I just got back home and I want to shower and I have to drop my son off at his friends and come back. Do you have the same name on steem chat?
I don't really know how people even believe these things will ever work. Same thing as people commenting withing the first minute of a post with "great post!" while clearly they haven't wven read it but just hoping they would be the first to pop up in the reply section and they can get a small reward for it. Comment sections here are meant to be for appretiation of the author, sharing ideas, engaging with the people not so much for self promotion. I don't like commenting on peoples posts just for the sake of it.. because they are whales or have high rating.. if you have nothing to say on the subject.. well no need to just write a bland comment.
I think it's a maturity issue, and a misunderstanding that Steemit is not like other social sites. There seems to be zero deep understanding of why Steem was created. Education and learning seem absent. I do know how poverty works though, and there is that issue that affects people's thinking. It did me...
I think it is even simpler than that - the rules allow certain behaviour and therefore people behave that way! This includes comment-spamming and self-voting and voting-rings etc. It doesn't even matter if "being caught" as one can open a new account.
Well the fact that is different than other social medias is why I think people try with these desperate approaches. That greed you are talking about and the money involved in the platform just makes people spam around not understanding what the whole thing is about.
Look, you are not going to prosper in steemit by spamming people and leaving these comments.
I am not sure if you're a child, or in a desperate situation, but doing this won't help.
Telling the truth will get you much farther than pretending to be that blonde woman. We know it's not you. Please stop this madness. I have stopped flagging your comments today. Think about what you are doing, and understand it is not working.
Wow! You touched me so deeply with your post Stella! Thank you so much my friend! Sincerely!
Your post is packed full with good advice, dance video/viral video, contest, understanding the reason why Steem exist... are all fundamental stuff people need to think about. Definitely contests....
Oh also I don't think I ever read that quote from Dan so that's a new one for me and one very awesome one.
Especially the rainbow color shitting unicorn was great! :p
No, but seriously this post was indeed very good. You can really feel the emotion in her writing. I normally hate reading, but this kept me interested. I also agree with probably most of her vision. We've all seen the beggars around here, it's weird that they don't understand why it's such a bad idea. You know how people react to beggars IRL so go figure...
At the beginning of my steemit journey I stummbled upon you. I left you a comment where you answered. It was one of the first higher accounts answers I become. Almost 2 months later, I help minnows in distress to find their way, to lose the spammy comments. I do take time to write most of them a short guidline on steemit behaviour.
Also it is human nature to be greedy, so by not having to much SP(even I have some delegated blessing for my engagement) I do send randowhale votes for people that produce good content and get lost in the noise. This small incetives, feeds them and shows them appreciation, which will show them that if they keep the good track, someone notices them.
This is good to learn. All of us have to keep learning and seeing new people. The early adopters can get lazy, for we got huge rewards. So, really we all have a struggle. This was good information to learn, and thanks for educating me on your work, which sounds very valuable to others. Thank you.
I have to thank, as you are a good example on how to 👍
Your struggle is real and you made. Everybody lacking motivation shall read your story and how hard it was for you, the steps you took. Massive motivation and knowledge 🏆🏋🏅
Maybe will meet on steemit and speak more. I have to see how I arrange it with my job.
ha ha! thanks for that. I appreciate your attention! It's getting more and more difficult to break through these days on Steemit.....one thing is for certain: there will always be social issues/problems with being human!
Hi!! Very very well said and that too so politely! I like that you're
Helping the newbies identify the mistake they may be driven to make
Advising them on how to go about it and
Reassuring them that this non-desperate way will work out for them in the end if they stay optimistic and work hard enough!
This is good and well put together stuff. Thanks for the reassurance considering that I'm also still a newbie albeit one more than a month old! Cheers! - @sandzat
@stellabelle, I could see a part of your heart in this post. Something coming from the guts while sharing your path in steemit from those early days.
The earlier adaptors of steemit worked really hard and sincerely to support and build the platform and so know the pain and struggle first hand. There was this zeal to give and support each other in the earlier steemiand. The newer generation steemians appear to be inspired more from the $$$ in trending page than anything else and there is this notion that more followers means more upvotes means more payout. The influence or weightage that SP brings is lost on many newbies. So I see them commenting 'I upvoted and followed you, now you follow me' thingy, when those upvotes really do not contribute to anything.
In the last 55 days about 1 Lakh+ new accounts are added to the total of about 2.6Lakh total steemit account. That means 40% of steemit accounts have come into being in just last say 2 months. Perhaps when such a large number of new accounts come in, it is but natural that some number of them start spamming.
I had commented in another blog that many of the steemians are not bloggers or with any special skills, but are just "accidental bloggers" If not for steemit, they wouldn't even type a single letter on their computer to blog in any other platform. It is not hard to see why?. The payments of course is the single largest magnet that draws all the iron men in the society to the platform. But I guess that's just being human after all.
So I feel spamming will continue. While the present breed learn their lesson and correct themselves, another new entrant breed will start it again and cycle continues. That is the price to pay on a growing platform where 1000s are joining everyday.
Instead I suggest one just ignores such comments and pass on.
I simply ask such commentators with a single liner "Why?". I never get any reply. And with some I say."I don't follow you, please don't follow me" that sure throws them offguard. With some interesting profiles I reply "I will read your next 5 blogs and if it interests me, I shall follow you, else No. But in return you don't need to follow me"
I see the world and society as a place where a great transformation is now possible. Think of a place where abundance not scarcity is the norm. How would that look? Is it possible? I think it is, but what it requires is a massive de-programming of the mind....I still feel that a better world is possible, and that is why I am here....still.
Well, i have to say that give is the best way to "earn" here. You Stella and aggroed ( and others) theach to me that, a it is my flag everywhere i go now, not only her in steemit.
Of course, i have a lot to learn, i have a long way to walk, all of we fight with that "selfish" gene...
When we don't have enough even to sustain our basic needs, then I can understand why someone would want attention. The problem is that the easy method does not work on Steemit. It requires something else, that each person has to figure out. Hey, who controls the @provenezuela account?
ah ok thank you! I didn't know for sure. Is it safe to say that this project has brought in the tons of Venezuelans? Before you all started this, how many Venezuelans were on Steemit? We really need to do an interview...let me know when you have time.
Well we did a report two weeks ago reviewing the data about it, in a nutshell, we launch the venezuelan tag from nearly zero in pays to 17,000$ and retovenezuela tag from zero to 4,000$ in pays aproximately... This only in one month of hard job, of course that @cervantes helping a lot with their curation projecto, but the venezuela tag was almost invisible one month ago.
as I posted last night in my blog, someone paid me .001 sbd so that I would look at their post. It felt like I had been what I call "johned" - like I needed to take a shower. I wrote them a scathing comment and posted about it on my blog to which I got a bunch of spam comments like "Awesome!" and some real people who helped me to see what was going on. One of the commenters - I went to all their blogs to check them out - was a plagiarist - I wrote her a long comment about @steemcleaners and plagiarism to which she replied that she was new and did not know any better and proceeded to repeat the same plagiarism today - so you are correct - it is some form of desparation which I too feel and fight every day. I try to just continue with "slow and steady wins the race". Way back when in 2016 @dragonslayer109 picked up one of my posts and reposted it and I was placed on the map from that - for which I am eternally grateful...and I still suffer from the desparation but I look at what steemit gives me and how I am doing fine and don't need what I don't receive - and then to combat it, I try to give more... but you are correct in that we are going to need to strategize as steemit grows - because this is the world - right now - a vast majority of people whoring themselves to get a few crumbs...
Great information @stellabelle as I am reading this with the sun glaring on the screen I cant help but mention that I need to toughing up on these matters. Meaning I said something similar a week back and I started to get even more people spamming their links on my posts, some I asked nicely to remove and some did while others didn't even pay attention. The one that gets me the most is the " Hi great post check this out" Grrrr
I mean are they kidding us or themselves! #crackingthewhip
yeah, i have to admit, it's getting pretty ugly. And something I really didn't notice before I left for vacation. What exactly happened?
I did a post about spamming posts and spamming me in the Steem Chat. Where I had to remain invisible because every time I would show up I would either get links to peoples posts, a follow for follow or some weird ad to join what seemed to be a pump and dump scam. For 2 days following what I wrote I had around 7 people spam their links and some of them think they can do it in a slick way, while others just posted with out any regards to reading the post. lol It's almost comical in a sense! One person even made the link size 20 font. I was nice about it If I saw they were new, I said listen please remove the link because its frowned upon here while the ones with higher rep scores and who have been here longer, I just said "is this a joke are you really spamming my post after what I just typed" Your post put things into perspective for me though because I have been wrestling with what to do with these members. #crackthewhip Any addition advice for me?
(I apologize if my reply seems messy I am on the boardwalk handing out flyers and the sun is really hot today) Trying to get some new members signed up.
I think being firm is the best way. Just say, "stop it please."
If that doesn't work, just don't engage with those who spam you.
Thank you, That is what I have been doing because I don't like hurting people with down votes unless they plagiarize my work then its own! Off topic, its really tough getting people to sign up even with free pizza! I signed up 2 people so far. Maybe, if they take the flyer home and not throw it out- it will creep into their mind later on. If you need any flyers, pens, calendars, etc for free let me know my family owns a printing press and I get all of it for free. So don't hesitate to ask me for anything that can help out. :0) Have a great afternoon. I will stick it out another hour and update later on today.
OMG, yes! I will definitely need these things. Let's talk. Steemit chat?
Yes, can you chat at 6pm Est? or maybe before I can msg you here if I get back earlier I just got back home and I want to shower and I have to drop my son off at his friends and come back. Do you have the same name on steem chat?
yes I do.....any time is fine, it doesn't have to be today....
I only ignore them...
This junk started happening to me too. I'm liking your hashtag.
I'm so relieved you feel this way.
Thanks for being a voice for positivity and long term thinking.
Very informative post but a bit leanghty
I don't really know how people even believe these things will ever work. Same thing as people commenting withing the first minute of a post with "great post!" while clearly they haven't wven read it but just hoping they would be the first to pop up in the reply section and they can get a small reward for it. Comment sections here are meant to be for appretiation of the author, sharing ideas, engaging with the people not so much for self promotion. I don't like commenting on peoples posts just for the sake of it.. because they are whales or have high rating.. if you have nothing to say on the subject.. well no need to just write a bland comment.
I think it's a maturity issue, and a misunderstanding that Steemit is not like other social sites. There seems to be zero deep understanding of why Steem was created. Education and learning seem absent. I do know how poverty works though, and there is that issue that affects people's thinking. It did me...
I think it is even simpler than that - the rules allow certain behaviour and therefore people behave that way! This includes comment-spamming and self-voting and voting-rings etc. It doesn't even matter if "being caught" as one can open a new account.
Steemit is a game and I think that promoting "good behaviour" must be encoded in the game rules - we just cannot expect it from most people.
True.
Well the fact that is different than other social medias is why I think people try with these desperate approaches. That greed you are talking about and the money involved in the platform just makes people spam around not understanding what the whole thing is about.
you flag me. your video all copyright. your photos all copyright. don't flag go on. note. you crazy dog.
Look, you are not going to prosper in steemit by spamming people and leaving these comments.
I am not sure if you're a child, or in a desperate situation, but doing this won't help.
Telling the truth will get you much farther than pretending to be that blonde woman. We know it's not you. Please stop this madness. I have stopped flagging your comments today. Think about what you are doing, and understand it is not working.
Wow! You touched me so deeply with your post Stella! Thank you so much my friend! Sincerely!
Your post is packed full with good advice, dance video/viral video, contest, understanding the reason why Steem exist... are all fundamental stuff people need to think about. Definitely contests....
Oh also I don't think I ever read that quote from Dan so that's a new one for me and one very awesome one.
No kidding! What kind (and valid) comments about you. Plus, she even mentioned me.
And to think, I had resorted to head wounds to create content....
I say, "Be Giving, not Greedy!"
Especially the rainbow color shitting unicorn was great! :p
No, but seriously this post was indeed very good. You can really feel the emotion in her writing. I normally hate reading, but this kept me interested. I also agree with probably most of her vision. We've all seen the beggars around here, it's weird that they don't understand why it's such a bad idea. You know how people react to beggars IRL so go figure...
Very sure that you both make a great team to guide us.
Greetings from my heart
At the beginning of my steemit journey I stummbled upon you. I left you a comment where you answered. It was one of the first higher accounts answers I become. Almost 2 months later, I help minnows in distress to find their way, to lose the spammy comments. I do take time to write most of them a short guidline on steemit behaviour.
Also it is human nature to be greedy, so by not having to much SP(even I have some delegated blessing for my engagement) I do send randowhale votes for people that produce good content and get lost in the noise. This small incetives, feeds them and shows them appreciation, which will show them that if they keep the good track, someone notices them.
Thank you
This is good to learn. All of us have to keep learning and seeing new people. The early adopters can get lazy, for we got huge rewards. So, really we all have a struggle. This was good information to learn, and thanks for educating me on your work, which sounds very valuable to others. Thank you.
I have to thank, as you are a good example on how to 👍
Your struggle is real and you made. Everybody lacking motivation shall read your story and how hard it was for you, the steps you took. Massive motivation and knowledge 🏆🏋🏅
Maybe will meet on steemit and speak more. I have to see how I arrange it with my job.
I have followed you since July or Augt 2016, and I know when you absence from steemit for 1-2 months (correct me if I am wrong)
I still save your link...ha...ha..! (this is the time when I decide to follow you)
https://steemit.com/steemit/@stellabelle/how-i-achieved-the-1-reputation-ranking-on-steemit-and-how-you-can-improve-yours
Nice ! :)
ha ha! thanks for that. I appreciate your attention! It's getting more and more difficult to break through these days on Steemit.....one thing is for certain: there will always be social issues/problems with being human!
Hi!! Very very well said and that too so politely! I like that you're
This is good and well put together stuff. Thanks for the reassurance considering that I'm also still a newbie albeit one more than a month old! Cheers! - @sandzat
if I could resteam your comment I would as it totally sums up what I got from @stellabelle's message :)
@stellabelle, I could see a part of your heart in this post. Something coming from the guts while sharing your path in steemit from those early days.
The earlier adaptors of steemit worked really hard and sincerely to support and build the platform and so know the pain and struggle first hand. There was this zeal to give and support each other in the earlier steemiand. The newer generation steemians appear to be inspired more from the $$$ in trending page than anything else and there is this notion that more followers means more upvotes means more payout. The influence or weightage that SP brings is lost on many newbies. So I see them commenting 'I upvoted and followed you, now you follow me' thingy, when those upvotes really do not contribute to anything.
In the last 55 days about 1 Lakh+ new accounts are added to the total of about 2.6Lakh total steemit account. That means 40% of steemit accounts have come into being in just last say 2 months. Perhaps when such a large number of new accounts come in, it is but natural that some number of them start spamming.
I had commented in another blog that many of the steemians are not bloggers or with any special skills, but are just "accidental bloggers" If not for steemit, they wouldn't even type a single letter on their computer to blog in any other platform. It is not hard to see why?. The payments of course is the single largest magnet that draws all the iron men in the society to the platform. But I guess that's just being human after all.
So I feel spamming will continue. While the present breed learn their lesson and correct themselves, another new entrant breed will start it again and cycle continues. That is the price to pay on a growing platform where 1000s are joining everyday.
Instead I suggest one just ignores such comments and pass on.
I simply ask such commentators with a single liner "Why?". I never get any reply. And with some I say."I don't follow you, please don't follow me" that sure throws them offguard. With some interesting profiles I reply "I will read your next 5 blogs and if it interests me, I shall follow you, else No. But in return you don't need to follow me"
I see the world and society as a place where a great transformation is now possible. Think of a place where abundance not scarcity is the norm. How would that look? Is it possible? I think it is, but what it requires is a massive de-programming of the mind....I still feel that a better world is possible, and that is why I am here....still.
Well, i have to say that give is the best way to "earn" here. You Stella and aggroed ( and others) theach to me that, a it is my flag everywhere i go now, not only her in steemit.
Of course, i have a lot to learn, i have a long way to walk, all of we fight with that "selfish" gene...
When we don't have enough even to sustain our basic needs, then I can understand why someone would want attention. The problem is that the easy method does not work on Steemit. It requires something else, that each person has to figure out. Hey, who controls the @provenezuela account?
I have the owner key and @jocra & @gabystories posting key
ah ok thank you! I didn't know for sure. Is it safe to say that this project has brought in the tons of Venezuelans? Before you all started this, how many Venezuelans were on Steemit? We really need to do an interview...let me know when you have time.
Well we did a report two weeks ago reviewing the data about it, in a nutshell, we launch the venezuelan tag from nearly zero in pays to 17,000$ and retovenezuela tag from zero to 4,000$ in pays aproximately... This only in one month of hard job, of course that @cervantes helping a lot with their curation projecto, but the venezuela tag was almost invisible one month ago.
as I posted last night in my blog, someone paid me .001 sbd so that I would look at their post. It felt like I had been what I call "johned" - like I needed to take a shower. I wrote them a scathing comment and posted about it on my blog to which I got a bunch of spam comments like "Awesome!" and some real people who helped me to see what was going on. One of the commenters - I went to all their blogs to check them out - was a plagiarist - I wrote her a long comment about @steemcleaners and plagiarism to which she replied that she was new and did not know any better and proceeded to repeat the same plagiarism today - so you are correct - it is some form of desparation which I too feel and fight every day. I try to just continue with "slow and steady wins the race". Way back when in 2016 @dragonslayer109 picked up one of my posts and reposted it and I was placed on the map from that - for which I am eternally grateful...and I still suffer from the desparation but I look at what steemit gives me and how I am doing fine and don't need what I don't receive - and then to combat it, I try to give more... but you are correct in that we are going to need to strategize as steemit grows - because this is the world - right now - a vast majority of people whoring themselves to get a few crumbs...
omg, you're right: