@scribblingramma I totally agree. I think of these same things and wonder what happened, did we fail as parents or did our children fail? Something went haywire. Even on the river, things have changed people have no respect for someone fishing if you are sitting in their way of going somewhere they go as close as they can to you. And no one waves, it used to be every boat you passed you waved at each other, not anymore, they are looking straight ahead as you are not there. sorry for the little rant.