RE: You know SBI but do you remember Bernie Madoff Ponzi Scheme
Hello. Just now I noticed that you took manual notice of me!
I see you zeroed out your automated votes and revoted with a 100% downvote. I am one of the largest holders of steembasicincome units and I help moderate in the discord, where I have spent the last several weeks fielding complaints about you.
It is my personal belief that this is an important lesson in decentralized governance. Whether #steem or some other blockchain rise to supremacy, any stake based system will have to deal with misunderstandings, disagreements and jerks. I believe that the lessons we are learning today with #steem with be studied for a long time to come.
I think it has become quite clear that 'free' downvotes were not a good idea if we want actual users interacting with the platform. Abstracting away the downvotes is the only way someone can build on #steem moving forward. By computers, downvotes and upvotes are just mirrored stake-weighed operations. But on a human level, downvotes feel a lot more like violence.
Whether #steem figures this out and changes course, or is already on its way to avoiding direct user usage altogether - SOME blockchain will take these lessons and try again.
The mmmmkkkk311 conjecture: No matter how elegantly designed something is, someone will think it's a scam.
VOTE BUYING IS WRONG, that's your lesson to learn
No, in fact I don't even think 'wrong' is the right word to use at all. We are talking about tech, about code, you would make more sense thinking about 'permitted' or 'not permitted'.
I am permitted, by code, to do what I want with my stake. And so are you. If I wanted to go about not permitting you to downvote me, I would have to change the code. If you wanted to go about not permitting someone of buying votes, I would challenge you to think how that would even be possible. You can use your stake to disuade or disincentivize all you want, but you can never disallow.
In terms of morality - 'right vs wrong' - I'm not sure what you aim to achieve by implanting it with downvotes.
same here, as you said
Yes. And you should also accept responsibility for what you are doing. None of us is getting downvotes from you because we 'buy votes' or for any other reason other than - 'You feel like it'
Are you on discord or Steem.chat?
steem.chat, but I prefer public comments
Fair enough. I just had some questions about your reasoning.
Is your focus on those who “buy” sbi shares for others, otherwise known as buying them a vote? I’ve tried to catch up over comments and posts, but it’s a lot of dis fragmented information. You recently removed a witness vote for the c-squared curation group, and I was told it was for voting the open letter video about the downvoting.. made me curious what was going on so came to look.. and well, it left me with more questions.
It seems every time you try to speak, individuals respond in ways that make it hard to have a conversation, so I thought I would see if you were on any chat apps, but am ok with public comments too and respect that actually quite a bit.
Anywho, comment if you like.. or find me on Steem.chat @justineh
Have a good day.
All my downvotes are manual and goes to "sponsors" who are trying to get in the ring new members and increase own ranking in the circle. They know how to avoid downvotes but they keep sending STEEM to steembasicincome account, their choice
Now, tristancarax spent 200 STEEM for vote buying and wrote a post about it, c-squared upvoted his post. I don't want to have anything to do with witnesses who are supporting #oldsteem.
Do you manually downvote based on the vote amount they received or just full throttle?
I won’t argue with you about c-squared supporting “oldsteem” as we were “newsteem” from the day we were formed.. didn’t even need a hardfork to make us act in the best interest of the platform. If you knew anything about the project, that would be abundantly clear. But quite frankly you can vote for whatever witnesses you want, I won’t argue with that part and we don’t really campaign for votes anyways - I was just curious your reasoning.
I don’t disagree with downvoting those buying votes, no matter what they call it, I would say that downvoting a post that received a 7cent vote for something over and above 7cents seems quite harsh though. Most of these votes are done away by the curve anyways.
Anyways, thanks for the explanation.. I was just curious your reasoning. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!
MK admits to running a bidbot
Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"
I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!
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With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.
SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!
He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!
MK admits to running a bidbot
Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"
I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!
Choose a delegation amount
5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000
With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.
SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!
Why are earth do you want us to collect more evidence against you, @
mmmmkkkk311? Quite confident for someone who hasn't been able to keep their story straight throughout any of the threads. Weird, but okay. You do you.
Why would you respond to his comment to me? Take your rage elsewhere, perhaps your own post or comments. Pretty sure individuals are still allowed to comment on this platform.. if you don’t like it, use those downvotes bro 🙂
Rage isn't quite the right word but I do see your point. I'll agree that I am pissed. This dude steps on people like me because he has money and doesn't care about others, only himself. This type of stuff has never sat well with me and I do speak up and out against it, even if he continues to take the pennies I earn for the hours of work I usually have put into a post, beside a freewrite where the whole point is to do the best you can in x amount of time but even those may take an hour or more.
He keeps hoping around and if/when he does speak to people, his story keeps changing slightly. Very fishy. I've been around people like this before and they are a drain on society.
Not gonna use a down vote. Why would I? I seek peace not this continued war the dude has made against an entire community for receiving pennies.
Maybe, quite possibly/probably, my tacked is a bit off. I'll sit back and learn but if he goes on some bs, I'll find it in his own comments where he stated otherwise and post it here.
He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!
MK admits to running a bidbot
Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"
I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!
Choose a delegation amount
5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000
With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.
SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!
He baselessly claims it is a "ponzi scheme" which just shows that either he doesn't understand how it works or (more likely) he just doesn't understand what a ponzi scheme even is! And the blatant hypocrisy in him trying to fight "vote selling" when that is exactly what he did with his bidbot! As as bidbot owner with over a dozen alt accounts he is in no place to judge what is right or wrong here on Steem. Now he is mad that his scam has ended. So like an upset child, he has decided to take out his anger (caused only by his own failures) on other innocent people. Making him nothing more than a big bully!
MK admits to running a bidbot
Actual account who was "wrecked by @mmmmkkkk311 (for holding sbi shares)"
I am here to counter @mmmmkkkk311's bullying. I will upvote every post/comment that he downvotes. You can support my anti bullying upvotes by delegating (links below) Steem Power to @ilovemk311. And you can help keep this message visible by upvoting this comment or by purchasing SBI shares for @mk311isabully which will help to counter the downvotes that @mmmmkkkk311 will surely send my way. Which I highly encourage him to do as the more downvoting power he wastes on me the less he can use to downvote the real content creators here on Steem that would otherwise become his victims!
Choose a delegation amount
5 | 10 | 20 | 50 | 100 | 500 | 1000
With this jerk bullying innocent people we are seeing many great content creators leave due to the drama and negativity that @mmmmkkkk311's downvote campaign brings to the blockchain. While he claims he is trying to defend his investment he is actually unwittingly destroying it.
SBI is an initiative that has done nothing but help promote onboarding and community building here on the Steem blockchain. Let us not turn our back on it out of fear for getting downvoted. Instead lets stand up for this great initiative that has helped so many people and helped the Steem community to grow and thrive!