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RE: Will Online Erasure Be a 21st Century Form Of Damnatio Memoriae?

in #debate8 years ago

Scary thought. I am not a fan of the concept. I prefer knowing actual history in all its positives and negatives. Omission can totally change the context of reality and makes the thing potentially a lie. Thus, I am not in favor.

Yet, sadly it does happen. This makes me think of Ben Swann. This more or less happened to him very recently.

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I think as time moves on it will become easier and easier to do.

I for one will be one who attempts to fight such a thing occurring.

By the time something like this really starts become severe we may be too old too stop it and the younger generation may be so cultural programmed so as to not even see it as a problem.

Those born into 1984 cannot see what is wrong, as they know nothing different.

Yes, this is a concern.

Pardon me...gentlemen. I don't like to give out my real age, but I do recognize signs. The very fact that we were able to come together on this platform and can actually engage with one another, in deep thought. I don't just think it was by chance or by luck. Matter of fact, I really don't know what to call it. So excuse me for just being Frank. I just feel that I am doing what I was destined to do while enjoying the time with my family and friends.

@cassidyandfranks - I don't like to give out my real age, but I do recognize signs.

I had to move it back here as the level you replied to is at the maximum nesting level.

We are making generalizations. There will be exceptions to every generation as we are all individuals. This being oblivious to what was done is not unique to any one generation, it can happen to any. Yet that doesn't mean everyone in a generation is that way.

My current method of fighting is just to write about and talk about critical thinking. I don't tell people what they should believe (or I try not to) but I do encourage them to do their own thinking, and try to help them start to see and avoid common logical fallacies that seem to rule across many generations at the moment.

The big problems, I think the most likely way we will ever solve them is if we all have our own minds, understand how to speak with others who also use critical thinking, and tread our own paths rather than trying to indicate our path is the one everyone should follow.

Yet, I do know and have witnessed how the world can be totally alien when changes occur an a person is born after those changes. You can imagine the world before those changes if they are described and you read them, but they are not as internal.

A good example today is all of the people blindly and gleefully shouting to end free speech. Unless, you say what they want to hear. The obsession with triggering words, and safe spaces.

This is NOT you necessarily, but there a lot of people that this describes, and I believe that is an example of the group of people @thecryptofiend and I am referring to as being born into 1984 and not being able to see it.

Very well put.

This idea that everyone should think the same way and believe exactly the same things is straight out of the work of Orwell or the Soviet Union for that matter.

A healthy society is one that allows discussion and debate.

I apologize dwinblood if I sounded to off the cuff, no need for any negativity or violence. We have been called to higher level to interact in a civilized manner. I truly admire your mental inspiration and GREAT knowledge that I did not have enough time...yet to fully acknowledge. This is truly an honor to be around liked minded individuals which are not easy to find these days. Please carry on gents, I look forward to read more of anything I missed.

In fact, if it came to it that is something I'd put my life on the line to fight if that was the only way to fight.

My concern is that these things happen so gradually that we may not even realise they are happening.

If we look at the surveillance state, a decade ago I think it would have been shocking but when I discuss it with the younger generation like my little brother - it seems like they don't even see it as a problem!

By the time something like this really starts become severe we may be too old too stop it and the younger generation may be so cultural programmed so as to not even see it as a problem.

That is one of the things that really worries me. Perceptions change so fast.