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RE: Argument, Debate, Discussion, and some things that don't work...

Yes, I do think most of the things truly worth doing are not necessarily easy. This certainly is not easy.

I look at it like seeds. They may not want to listen to me now. They may adamantly refuse to listen. A year leader I might see them speaking to other people and "getting it" and speaking as if they were now in my shoes. They likely don't even remember their conversation with me, but that seed obviously grew into something.

I am 100% certain seeds other people have planted in me have grown and changed me.