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RE: The @null.promoted experiment.

in #burned5 years ago

Why not just give the top promoted post an upvote from you or your bot as an extra reward for burning tokens to promote content? Why duplicate or link to another post and then upvote that? I’m not sure how that entices people to use the Promoted feature.

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Because nobody's checking /promoted/ and buying the votes of sellouts make pumping these post to top trending affordable.
Feel free to give an upvote to null.p featured posts, they're from people willing to provably commit real money to give exposure to their content.

Nobody checks Promoted because it’s a poorly implemented feature. It needs to be fixed by STINC - or other interfaces need to step up and make it a viable feature.

But I still don’t see how this method will work out better for the people using Promoted. I think this is more likely to receive backlash, as other users will see the duplicate or link post as a low-value post that’s over-rewarded.

Put pressure on STINC and other interface owners to create a better promotion feature for users. I think that would yield far better results in the long-run. It’s definitely something that could/would be extremely beneficial.

Last null promoted posts were staying there for weeks with about 2 cents burned.
Replacing top spot by burning a few cent or low dollars sounds like a simpler deal than committing 100$ into dozens of promotion tools.

None of the other interface have even implemented the top burn page. So in the meanwhile that's better than nothing and certainly gets the ball rolling.

Should chat with the @steempeak devs. They are really good at getting things done.

They are probably one of the few groups that get stuff done on this chain without massive delegations.

They are pretty much the only frontend that even attempts to accommodate all the SCOT stuff happening.

Yes, Steempeek devs are impressive

We're already on it.

Wrote a document about what we plan to do and how we think it can be decentralized as we hope other interfaces also take it up and hopefully we can get steemit as well to change up their system just a bit to accommodate it. But regardless it's something we're planning on doing.

In fact PM me and i'm happy to share the document if you guys are into the subject so you can give some feedback.
CC @enforcer48

I thought promoted feature is on blockchain level, not just UI. I agree.

I share my thoughts on it in more details here: https://steemit.com/newsteem/@geekgirl/pu8605

The burning of tokens is a blockchain function, but how the posts are displayed is certainly an interface issue. There are ways for interface developers to put promoted content into normal trending and hot lists. It's just not done, unfortunately.

Not like people would flock to use it because of this anyhow.

Probably makes more sense for new features like <account name>'s curation feed to be implemented on the frontend than continually trying to fix the broken trending and promoted feature.

SteemPeak has something similar, but I would prefer a way for me to directly display someone's feed as a normie.

For the Steem you get from upvotes to have any value the token has to be used for competing for attention.

Most burned to @null is one way, Time will tell how effective it'll be.

So, are you going to share the rewards with the original authors?

burning tokens

Any profit is earned from upvotes will be kept and used to pay for further promotion.

Sorry about that! But I do think this one answers you:

Every 24h a new post is created and may get promoted into regular trending using @Steemium promotion tool

It doesn't state it uses author rewards, but considering the costs, I assume it does.

Assume that votes cost more than they're worth and think again if your question make sense.

I'll try making it clear what post to upvote to support the authors.