Be Aware From all Upvoting Bots.?? starting from buildawhale..!-- i am just try to investigate --

in #bots7 years ago (edited)

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It appear that the series of warning steemians from upvoting Bots did not end yet.



  • And considering the success that we achieve from the last post about upvoting pots, when @sneaky-ninja bot, AKA @reko the owner, as a respectful member of the community.
    Changed the voting behavior of the sneaky-ninja bot. :-)


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  • And so I had my eyes on the main voting bots for some time now, I confirm that @sneaky-ninja is profitable again.jjj.png
  • And to be sure!
    And now I tried the @buildawhale bot.
    And I thought that @buildawhale mean that it is helping in building new whales in the community, but I was wrong, it seems that it means that we are building him to become a whale!

    --As I sent - 5$ - in the last minute that it was going to start upvoting in, and the profitability calculator gave me - >14$ - Upvote from it, but it wasn’t resaved as expected!images.png



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    1.Total Vote Value: $169.26 (100%)
    2.Total Bids: $57.99

  • And as you see from the pics. that it upvoted me with - < 8$ - so it was near half what I was expecting indeed, and I don’t think that the calculator is wrong I think that the bot programmed to give a fixed margin of profitability to upvote with even if the bidding pool is not giving the same result. :-(


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    And as you see from the info the @buildawhale butting on his profile page that it is consider working with biding pool algorithm in mind.
    And if it is not saying what meant that on the profile page I wasn’t going to consider giving me the right to inform my follow steemians about it.



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    --So my problem with this behavior is that I am a steem-promoter that talk with people about steem, steemit and the infinite opportunities on that community and Eco-system and one of those opportunities right – Now - that will not be here in the future are the biding bots. And because we don’t bid in Egypt we must calculate it, and we should get near correct calculations so we can use these bots.

    ~~imagine when I am giving a person a tutorial about how to use those bots and came out completely Wrong.

    My credential’s lost to him by these point.1231.png

    --So please think as team play - before making an upvote bot, please give a real description to your bot so we do not get confused or burned.



    <>This is a sample of the bot owner reply's
    and you can see more in the comment section<>

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    Hi @omar-hesham, i am the creator of the bot tracker tool which it appears you were using to calculate the upvote value you could expect to receive from the bots.

    It looks like there is an issue with the tracker determining when bids are invalid, as you can see in the screenshot you posted it is showing the top bunch of posts in the round as invalid which is probably inaccurate.

    I will work on resolving that issue and I do my best to make sure the bot tracker is as accurate as possible, however there are a few things that are important to remember:

    1. I make no money off of the bot tracker site. I spend my time and effort on it because I want to help grow the Steem community. There is no guarantee that anything shown on the site will be correct and it's important to do your own due diligence to check the numbers in case there is an error.

    2. The @buildawhale bot was and is working exactly as designed and advertised. The issue in this case was with the bot tracker site and not the bot itself.

    It seems that you don't really understand how this all works, and it's harmful and irresponsible to make a post like this which is spreading incorrect information and accusing innocent parties of wrongdoing.

    Instead you could have contacted me directly and I could have helped you understand and resolve the issue.

    One other thing is that you actually made a REALLY GOOD return from @buildawhale from your bid. If people like you who, rather than talking to the site or bot owners to try to understand the issue, just post inaccurate and misleading complaints then I may have to take down the bot tracker site altogether and you'll be on your own to figure out how to use the bots profitably.

    I am just telling my story and my result so every one can benefit from it and your reply is one of these benefits to learn us about the reality of the situation

  • Can i ask you if i understand this correctly that you say that there is a bug in the programming of the tool that gives a false result to all the calculation of the wale vote from time to time?
  • @yabapmatt excuse me i will take this replay and put it in a post.

    I am the owner of @buildawhale.

    And as you see from the pics. that it upvoted me with - < 8$ - so it was near half what I was expecting indeed, and I don’t think that the calculator is wrong I think that the bot programmed to give a fixed margin of profitability to upvote with even if the bidding pool is not giving the same result. :-(

    This is completely untrue and all the bids/votes are on the public immutable blockchain, you can verify the numbers for yourself.

    The bidding tool is not my creation, that is @yabapmatt. I do not control the accuracy of the tool but I do keep it running in a dedicated tab and 99% of the time it is within 5% of the final bid total.

    That being said, it looks like you made out pretty good. I am sorry you are disappointed you didn't get a larger ROI, but 53% ROI is pretty damn fantastic.

    --So please think as team play - before making an upvote bot, please give a real description to your bot so we do not get confused or burned.

    Please explain how making 53% profit on your bid is being burned?

    from the investigation i made it appear that the posts that the bot have been voted on are calculated in the bid pool

    I cannot speak for the bot tracker tool as it is no our tool. I believe @yabapmatt is coming here to make a response, but I have no say or control of that tool. It is a best-effort service and is done to help users have more information when bidding.

    Making a hate post because you made 53% profit instead of 400% is very poor taste and in fact slander.

    by the way this tool is not the only one i use but as i reply i am telling my facts

    -- just that simple --.

    and believe me i am not rely souring about the money it is only 5$
    it is the moral behind it.

    moral behind what? You paid me $5 and I gave you $7.65 for a post about you going around vandalizing public spaces.

    I don’t think that the calculator is wrong I think that the bot programmed to give a fixed margin of profitability to upvote with even if the bidding pool is not giving the same result. :-(

    Is not facts, it's slander. You can do the math if you want proof. As I said, it is all public.

    and believe me i am not rely souring about the money it is only 5$
    it is the moral behind it.

    I would hope not, you made 53% profit, but still felt the need to slander my name with accusations I am somehow cheating you?

    Simple solution for you - dont use any of the tools and bots.
    People behind the bot and tool spend much time to create it / improve it and invest own money and you complain about 50% gain one big LOL

  • Did you sow me asking for more money i am giving my experience and feedback
  • You make the wrong impression on people by showing facts that are either false or just good for you, be objective next time.

    you are wright my friend :)

    post was awsome but shit about the comments

    You either misunderstand what is going on here, or are taking the side of ignorance.

    Either way, your comment is garbage.

    i find the bidding bots risky and most of the time non profitable. its like gambling.
    that's why i stick with minnowbooster

    you are very near to the truth my dear friend.

    you do realize with that bid you lost 25% yet you make $2.65 with me and decide to write a post slandering me?

    slandering?? , why?
    did you stop the bot or even the steemians stopped using you bot, or i told the community something did not happen with me ?

    You accused me of manipulating the bids and cheating users, without evidence or proof. That is called slander. Fortunately all the evidence and proof is on a public immutable blockchain, that can prove otherwise.

    I work very damn hard to be transparent and build a reputation to have someone slander it with false accusations.

    I don’t think that the calculator is wrong I think that the bot programmed to give a fixed margin of profitability to upvote with even if the bidding pool is not giving the same result

    @themarkymark for the benefit of the doubt and because i am not in any way try to harm any one but the optimize
    take another look at the post!

    and as you say i earned 2.65$ and after curation 2$ it still profit i know so steemian can decide for them selfies

    i earned 2.65$ and after curation 2$

    Yet you felt the need to slander my brand? No mention about your other bids resulted in lost money. You even went so far to burn $2.5 using "Promote". to promote this slander even more.

    i always promote my posts by the way not this one only

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    Could we forget about profitable bots?

    It was still extremely profitable, He just relied on a tool to get rich quick.

    yes man this tool will make me rich by 14$ very fast that i can get the Lambo. the end of this year.

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    It consists of $4.4 vote and $0.18 curation
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