Thanks @derosnec. I have a good knowledge when it comes to horses & cows as far as sickness and doctoring, and not any when it comes to small animals. Also pretty good at reading people but I wasn't with them at the vets office, we surely won't be going back to the first vet. Sound like your cat has been with you for quite a while, the longest cat that we had lived 15 years. He was jet black, not a white hair on his body, we named him The Ace of Spades, & Acer for short.