This is a great post. Reminds me of that tool Rousimar Palhares who not only cranked these bad boys past the point of damage, he held them past the tap as well. Obviously extra care has to be taken with submission holds that can damage before pain is felt, but agreed that this doesn't mean they shouldn't be taught. They just need extra care in teaching and training.

Do me a favor - the next time you make an awesome jiujitsu post illustrated with footage from your own matches, don't buy a vote and please reply to me here to let me know it is posted. Cheers - Carl (Curie curator)