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RE: Interesting Bitcoin Cash Apps and Resources

in #bitcoin7 years ago

No, no. No hate for using it and promoting it. My beef is with specific promoters. I use the term "bcash" specifically for how mad it makes Rover Ver. He argues that it is the "real Bitcoin", which I consider an attempt at fraud as Bitcoin is the "real" Bitcoin. (Anyone who doubts this will not doubt it for long if they buy Bitcoin Cash and try to transfer it to a Bitcoin wallet). I don't begrudge anyone the right to argue the benefits of any coin, but when you buy Bitcoin.com AND the @bitcoin Twitter in an attempt to conflate your currency with Bitcoin then I think that is dishonest.

Thank you for explaining the term "bcash", though. Very confusing concept for some people. Not everyone appreciates a good portmanteau.

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He argues that it is the "real Bitcoin", which I consider an attempt at fraud as Bitcoin is the "real" Bitcoin.

I agree with him that it is "the real" Bitcoin, but obviously not ticker BTC. I also have different reasoning for that than him.

when you buy Bitcoin.com AND the @bitcoin Twitter in an attempt to conflate your currency with Bitcoin then I think that is dishonest.

If this was the case, then I would consider that very aggressive strategy and since he's said that the Twitter account does not belong to him also dishonest. But the Bitcoin.com domain has been in Rogers belonging since 2014. He has was such a vocal and repetitive speaker in support of Bitcoin that even Bitcoin users found him preachy back when we were mostly just various anarchists and libertarians and nicknamed him to signal that. (This was in fact even earlier. I can't say when exactly, but I it was not super early either)

I'm not really a fan of Roger and people will undoubtedly make the mistake of thinking that I am when I speak up on a sensitive topic like this, but there is so much more to this issue and it pains me to constantly see a mix of real people and fake accounts use Roger (or some much more shady figure) as the excuse for why Bitcoin Cash is bad.

Now, I appreciate that we can't all know and keep track of everything and I don't mean to debate you here either. Just wanted to have my say before everyone moves on to the next hot topic.

All fair points. About the website, I just wanted to point out that this image is on the front page.

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They are marketing Bitcoin Cash as an "upgrade" from Bitcoin rather than an alternative. I think it is deceptive and, right now, I don't want to give government regulators any reason to characterize this space as predatory.

Technically it's quite true that it's an "upgrade", in many ways of the word. I still wouldn't consider it to be fraud. But I can agree that's too ambiguous to be good marketing. As I said, I don't always agree with Roger in particular. In this case I'm pretty sure the decision was not his, but he obviously is responsible as he is the site owner.

After my criticism, he did correct a few things in a step by step guide to buying Bitcoin (BTC/BCH), so it's obvious he listens to what people have to say. But not if they troll him. Maybe someone should try to talk with him directly about this in a calm -- non-accusatory -- manner and see if he changes it?

When it comes to regulators, I frankly say "bring it". We can't stay under the radar forever and eventually there will be clashes. I'd rather have the crypto community learn about the importance of privacy now, than when it's too late and no longer practical to address.

-I want to say that I applaud you for not completely lashing out in conversation so far. It may sound degrading or overly dramatic, but this is terribly uncommon when discussing this topic, as I have learned since I started to shift my position towards being more understanding of Bitcoin Cash and where the community is coming from.

And I thank you for being civil as well. People like picking sides in the Bitcoin Cash issue. I am on the side of the user. Finance is full of people trying to take advantage of the less financially aware. I see it all of the time in traditional finance, I would hate it to become normal here.

I'm with you on that.