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RE: Payouts with zero votes? What's going on here?
"...I'm guessing..."
isn't evidence of anything. Could you provide some kind of actual evidence beyond your guess that someone did something that made bots not show somehow, somewhere?
The fact is that @animalcontrol just upvoted the comment of mine you just replied to, and that upvote is visible. You can see that for yourself. That's evidence.
I wanted to add here, that now I can no longer see @animalcontrol's name on the upvote I referenced above. That is weird.
This problem is troubling me. I am troubled because I came here to resist censorship, and this is censorship. That's a problem for me.
Because that's exactly what happened.
You must have missed the entire drama surrounding @fulltimegeek, etc.
The frontends have chosen to not show those accounts because they are adding thousands of comments on specific users.
Can you provide source for this? I was aware of the drama, even piped up trying to end FTG's flagging of @themadcurator, and had some of that nasty spam inflicted on some of my comments when discussing with LindsayBowes how she got dragged into the issue.
I took a few flags for it, but FTG has been supporting my posts and comments consistently before and since. I haven't found that to be a problem. It's odd that I do see most upvotes, and only occasionally see rewards pending without such a vote being visible. I can see why the spam needed to be dealt with. It was not merely obnoxious, but intolerable, and the intrepid can find my comments to that effect if they are willing to wade into that spam ocean, but concealing the votes doesn't seem at all indicated.
The fact that some of it isn't concealed, at least on Steempeak, is more confusing yet.
Is there a post or comment about the solution you could point me to?
Thanks!
You are free to go ask around in places such as @steempeak's Discord.
I got my information from the @themarkymark.
That upvote from @animalcontrol isn't visible on Steemit actually. If you use Steempeak and it visible they must not be in perfect sync on this issue.
All the ones I say are hidden are hidden on Steemit.
THAT is interesting! I find it odd that the issue is intermittent. I hate problems that have that feature, like a car that works fine when you take it to the mechanic, but as soon as you drive off has the problem again.
There must be a pattern to it that can provide a basis for grasping what is actually happening.
This one has four upvotes! Again one from @animalcontrol, then 3 more from different fulltimebots. Those are @fulltimebot8, @fulltimebot18, and @fulltimebot22.
These are all abusers I'm pretty sure, but I'm not sure what to do about this. These votes are pretty substantial, and if those really are "full time" as the names suggest then it's certainly a drain on the reward pool.
The only thing I can think is downvoting the comments, but I wouldn't want to adversely effect @valued-customer, or other recipients of these upvotes.
Here's the vote info for those:
"active_votes":[{"voter":"fulltimebot8","weight":131191,"rshares":"81945650920","percent":6533,"reputation":0,"time":"2019-03-29T04:22:06"},{"voter":"animalcontrol","weight":287133,"rshares":"81821001317","percent":271,"reputation":"48428787253","time":"2019-03-29T04:04:42"},{"voter":"fulltimebot18","weight":78153,"rshares":"81950152515","percent":6543,"reputation":0,"time":"2019-03-29T04:24:27"},{"voter":"fulltimebot22","weight":78156,"rshares":"81951721871","percent":6544,"reputation":0,"time":"2019-03-29T04:25:21"}]
Since your comment was made at 2019-03-29T03:47:33, only @animalcontrol is making curation rewards here. Maybe @animalcontrol is owned by the owner of the fulltimebots and it's a scheme to earn curation rewards.
If I recall, I think I read a post about this kind of abuse from @enforcer48, or at least that account resteemed it.
Nothing about any votes being hidden though.
Well, I don't see how unsolicited upvotes are a form of abuse. If the autovoters are endowed with stake, they are deployed per the stakeholders wishes. If my posts and comments are upvoted by them, I reckon it's because what I say has value that the stakeholder wants to encourage. That's how upvotes work.
Are you calling all upvotes abuse, or all autovotes abuse, just the ones from FTG, or only upvotes I receive? You can easily ascertain if there's any quid pro quo by having a look at my wallet and xactions. You might also read a few of my comments regarding bidbots. I've never bought a vote, never pandered for a vote, and don't think I will.
What I do is speak my mind, and it seems FTG provides me incentive to do that. How is that abuse?
The only abuse I had in mind when I included the tag was @animalcontrol's comment spam.
The abuse I'm talking about there has to do with upvoting comments and earning curation rewards. It was actually @pjau who made the post I reference. I believe it had something to do with using faucet delegations too.
To be clear, I don't know that this is what's happening here and I have very little reason to think it is what's happening.
Just an illustration of how upvotes can potentially be abusive.
Hey there, this has nothing to do with Steemit faucet delegations as it is not a @steem made account, so it won't ever receive delegation from Steemit. Besides it has too much SP on it 😉
But as for the display issue on Steemit, @themarkymark has explained it in this post if you didn't read it already: https://steemit.com/asksteem/@themarkymark/re-a-non-e-moose-payouts-with-zero-votes-what-s-going-on-here-20190330t163425399z
I had not read this, and very much appreciate the info.
Thanks!