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RE: Anarchy Is Not What They Made You Believe [VIDEO]

in #anarchy6 years ago

I started replying in good faith, but I stopped and deleted it after the third paragraph.

I'll leave it this way. I agree with you that parasites should be eradicated and maximizing freedom is desirable. Beyond that it is difficult to bridge our concept framings and I consider most things you said to be substantially incorrect in relation to generative positions.

Do you think it is fair to say you, yourself have no intention of improving the theory of 'anarchy' and are proceeding directly to implementing it via persuading others?

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I am not sure what you are asking. Anarchy means not imposing upon others, and resisting imposition by others. The philosophocal aspect requires consistent analysis based on universal and reciprocal principles. Modern politics is all about double standards to justify trespass.

I agree that modern politics are corrupt.

It sounds like you cast anarchy into the golden rule with an explicitly emphasized trespass clause...the game theory Tit for Tat strategy. It is a sound strategy, but it drops off significantly in meta competition - i.e. it primarily only dominates at lowers complexity scales.

Be aware that groups acting on a higher abstraction layer use lower abstraction players as pawns. Grandmasters effectively move the pieces of novices for them because they have a higher abstraction of time as it is applied to that system.

It is clear that anarchy will not displace the parasite it intends. Instead, the parasite will use anarchy to weaken actually viable threats operating near its abstraction.

I mention this because we each equally despise this parasite and I feel you would not willingly aid its goals. Quite simply, this is not a simple thing and treating it as such places you as a black pawn on the board (ironically because white declines to trespass against you)

Groups don't exist as some kind of gestalt entity. Society and the economy are an aggregate of numerous interpersonal interactions and exchanges. there is no reason the moral and rational principles of individual action and interaction cannot be extrapolated to a larger scale. You are trying to create a justification for trespass based on an imaginary idea.

A gestalt is precisely what a group exists as. Making an attempt at modeling the gestalt does not nullify or disprove the gestalt. You are attempting to use trees to disprove forests. Multiplication has no value, only addition. Nonsense.

Your reasoning is backwards. The issue isn't justification for trespass - which is only a convenience to the strong and an excuse for the weak, the issue is that the weak are powerless to prevent it.

Anarchy is common in history and it survives until some group arises and dominates it. It holds the same position in evolution that bacteria hold vs multicellular organisms. It isn't precise to say lower complexity organisms are inferior - it would be more correct to say they have fewer capabilities.

Why can't you recognize the organic complexity of cooperative society, and believe the lies by government that destruction and coercion are necessary or bemeficial? Society exists in a state of anarchy all around us, and my argument is against the interventions by government that umpede our progress and prosperity.

Do you need a government goon with a gun to force you to be civilized?

We are unable to have meaningful communication - as I stated in my second reply to you. We gave it an attempt. You declined to answer the question about your position but you supplied enough for me to answer for you. You consider the anarchy movement to be conceptually sound and sufficiently complete and you are moving to implement it.

I was using our conversation to mine for new information, what were you using it for? I estimate a 10-15 year knowledge gap between us on this topic. You have no detectable information to offer on this subject, but I think you are a decent person. Stay safe.