RE: What is with all the anarchists on Steemit, and why don't they care about violence and justice?

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RE: What is with all the anarchists on Steemit, and why don't they care about violence and justice?

zorrotmm (57)in #anarchism • 8 years ago

@piedpiper basically said it, but the only significant organized crime I'm aware of came about due to prohibition. Alcohol first, and then other drugs when alcohol prohibition ended. If profitable crime syndicates have historically been dependent on facilitating victimless crimes, I don't see how they could exist without governments that persecute victimless crimes.

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monopoly-man (46) 8 years ago

Not to be repetitive... but...https://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/UNVTF_fs_HT_EN.pdf

$32 Billion dollars worth of victims.

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zorrotmm (57) 8 years ago

Sure. A few thoughts.

The people behind sex slavery numbers have been known to sensationalize things by including all kinds of voluntary sex workers as 'trafficked sex slaves', so I would look at these numbers very, very skeptically.
If this is a big problem now, it is a failure of whatever protection services exist in the moment (i.e. governments)
By making prostitution illegal, the trafficked workers are treated as criminals instead of victims. So really this is another prohibition problem that wouldn't exist.
Even if it is 32 bil industry (I still think a lot of that is just consensual sex work ), its not a single 32 billion dollar organization to try and fight. There are a lot of much smaller operations going on. And that number might be impressive until you look at what the insurance industry is worth.
No one is going to pay for kidnapping insurance that doesn't include attempted recovery services. No one would just accept a payout and not try to get the loved one back.
Security personnel would be all over this. You know all those cop movies and dramas where they get pissed off doing bullshit and they can't fight real crime? This would be the most glorious and satisfying work a security firm could be engaged in. Employees would be chomping at the bit to get assigned to these cases.

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zorrotmm (57) 8 years ago

And there you have it folks, the curious mask falls away, and the mighty strawman slayer emerges!

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monopoly-man (46) 8 years ago

@zorrotmm.. You may be right. But until your hypothesis is tested, those points are speculative. Are you willing to stake your life on those assumptions?

If you and other anarchists truly believe your theories, why don't you put up a couple million dollar bond on your life and get yourself kidnapped? Why not put your money where your mouths are?

Belief without rigourous testing is simply wishing.

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