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RE: DEBATE: Adam Kokesh v. Graham Smith on The Efficacy and Ethics of Political Crusading

in #anarchism7 years ago

I won't rehash all the things I've said before about the topic, but I was surprised to hear Adam claim that even if 90% of the population is voluntaryist, the other 10% would still be able to vote for statism and keep the 90% oppressed. Um, no. That's not how reality works.

(It's also funny to hear him keep saying that he's "not willing to wait" until enough people change their mind to end statism, so instead he wants to run a doomed "voluntaryist" campaign--in an overwhelmingly statist society--to promote an impossible Executive Order, which would never in a million years see the light of day.)

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When I see how extreme the tyranny has become and how thoroughly brainwashed the American people are, the solution seems .. cloudy at best. "If the government feels threatened, they WILL attack you." ~ Susan Lindauer

Question: If either method started to gain real momentum, what would the state be willing to do to stop it?

They would not bat an eye, imho, to kill however many was required to maintain control, a million, a 100 million.. not on their care list. Their foreign policy proves that.

Trying to find a solution has occupied my mind almost 24/7 for the last 15 years.

We need a massive wake up that reaches into the ranks of the military and law enforcement. If they don't point the guns the other way..

How can that be done? It must start in secret to have a chance and unveiled with an information explosion so powerful that it can't be stopped. We've got to let the big cats out of the bag, no compromises, zero. It would be a hell of an indictment and not just for gov but for those controlling it. I think I just saw about 10 million people surrounding Rothschild's castle and man do they look pissed. Dream on

The Last Revoluion - Looking Back

It was a beautiful spring morning this day in April of 2018 when it all began. Off in the distance, a cloud of dust rises as a vehicle approaches the cabin. It will be the first of many.

Everyone had agreed to take private transportation and only use cash for food and gas because these particular people all meeting together would raise suspicions and these were the days of unlawful surveillance.

Secrecy would be vital in the early days as it was well established that if "they" feel threatened, they WILL attack you. The ground must first be prepared for the seeds to have a chance.

It was all very reminiscent of a meeting on Jekyll Island when the Federal Reserve Scam was hatched. That wouldn't be the last of their tricks that we'd use against them.

Peaceful as doves, wise as serpents.

uh... wait until we see how the city of New Orleans reacts to the distribution of the "Freedom!" book. Then we can dissect your points in an efficient manner. Things are different since the internet has allowed for media-bypass and "goin' viral" to happen. ...and that was even before blockchain destroyed the last strains of censorship availability. PhuqueZuck and his ilk.

@larkenrose -- I tend to agree with you. I've been advocating people cancel their voter registration for 3 years. So, I will certainly not be telling people to go register with the anti-libertarian "Libertarian" Party. That's for damn sure. http://www.libertyunderattack.com/cancel-your-voter-registration/

I don’t get that argument of his either, @larkenrose. How does the majority support “magically work” in politics, but not in anarchism? The 10% won’t point guns at he and his supporters if they try to dismantle the state because they “used the system”? It’s almost like he is arguing against himself here.

My primary concern is that for unknown reasons a majority will always demand a ruler. We need to consider that possibility. What if that is the case? Then we need to figure out a way to coexist with them as those who refuse rulers. Lots of people continue to say, "they just need to be awakened." No. What if that's not possible? What if they will forever be cattle? What if as a species most of us will always choose safety over liberty?